Listeners took offence at comments Schulz made during a discussion of the “black girlfriend effect” – the inspiration for a TikTok trend where mixed race couples share how their relationships have changed them
James and Fuhad agreed that black women “glow up the other culture”, but Schulz argued that white men alter their appearance out of a “protective instinct”.
He added: “They shave their hair because they start losing it, because he’s so stressed to be around this black girl complaining all the time.
“They grow their beard because they need a cushion when they get slapped.”
James and Fuhad, who have millions of followers and won a Mobo Award in February, apologised after a clip was widely shared and accused of promoting racist stereotypes about black women.
They said they were “in shock” during the recording session in July and there was “no excuse” for their behaviour.
On his on podcast, which came out on Wednesday, Schulz said he could sympathise with James and Fuhad’s situation.
He said their producer had asked to cut other parts of the show they found inappropriate.
“But with that joke about the black women, nothing,” he says.
“The fight or flight thing wasn’t really there afterwards.”
